Mary Anne Mohanraj and Benjamin Rosenbaum planned an epic Summer 2020 US Road Trip to publicize their new books. Now it’s coronapocalypse time, and that road trip is going to have to be a podcast. Join two old friends as they talk about science fiction, community, the writing life, teaching, parenting, and a whole lot more. Does Ben really think you should let your kids touch the stove, and did he really burn his son's homework? Why did he write a novel with no men or women in it? What exactly did a young Mary Anne do to appall her aunts in college, and how did it lead circuitously to her founding science fiction's longest-running webzine? Mohanraj and Rosenbaum… Are Humans? Yes, yes they are.